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【CNBYN电影剧情分析】你是我的阳光与火焰,带给我极乐与极寒

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趁着歇班看完了电影
懒得p图了,拿以前的图凑个数
嗯,看完电影,心情比较复杂
有遗憾,有满足,更多的是喜欢,欣赏
遗憾的是原著里有很多特别想看到的情节没有得到展现
比如初尝禁果时,Oliver的那句You'll kill me if you stop(行吧,行吧,看原著时一直脑补满满的社情,哈哈),还有elio心里那一句:Where were you in my childhood, Oliver(我不知道,就是非常喜欢这句话,那种宿命中我一直在寻找你,而你却来得这么迟的遗憾,以及我终于还是找到你了的满足)
比如罗马之夜那里,Oliver说的那句:Today is tomorrow(一直脑补Eilo听到这句话时那种黯然神伤的小表情)
再比如两人在公交车上关于真心换真心的对话
当然有很多两人之间的小互动都没有得到更深的展现
作为原著党,未免遗憾
然而并不能苛求一部两个小时的电影囊括一本书籍所有的内容
并且一直觉得如果小说中所有的小心思都以旁白的形式出现未免太过多余露骨
相反,由演员通过表情,肢体语言慢慢展现,可能更加具有代入感
然后满足的是两位主演的演技爆表,颜值爆表
必须说的是小甜茶的表演,真的是令人印象深刻
崖径上试探的那个吻,表现张力十足
那个舔唇的小动作简直太撩了
以及最后的哭戏
那种一层层剥离开的情绪
拿捏的恰到好处
让人跟着他的情绪一点点陪着他回忆
还有整部影片中对于Oliver情感变化的细微处理
表情变化,肢体语言,和对方说话时的态度转变
啧,演技吊打流量小鲜肉啊

然后就是说几个比较喜欢的细节


IP属地:天津1楼2017-12-25 21:16回复
    01.你可知我在你身后,默默看着你的所有
    看到在舞池里和妹子狂欢的Oliver,elio的小表情很是到位
    那种强装无所谓,又忍不住嫉妒,还有些伤心以及一点点不甘心都藏在一个委屈的小表情里
    然后他融入狂欢的人群,在Oliver身边纵情起舞
    一来是一种孩子气的较劲,好像是说,你看,我也不差
    二来是想要呆在他身边,这个人是个大明星,他不愿意离开他,所以,就只能接近他




    IP属地:天津2楼2017-12-25 21:17
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      02.泳裤和衬衫
      在原著中,泳裤代表elio对Oliver的性幻想
      在电影中,省略了原著中打断对于泳裤的yy
      从精神层面直接引出行为,即elio把头钻进泳裤里,吸吮爱人的味道
      包括他随后的动作,他要把Oliver压在身下,一点点进入他,让他成为他的,全部,所有
      然后衬衫则代表了elio对Oliver的第一印象
      热烈的,耀眼的,精神上的爱恋
      电影里有一点挺好玩的
      就是两人初夜之后,Oliver捡起这件衬衫擦掉了身上的液体
      又扔给了elio
      可能我有点过度解读啊,只是觉得这个行为似乎是把两个人的肉体与情感结合在了一起
      而后elio开口让Oliver在临走前把衬衫送给他
      而转天,他收到了洗干净的衬衫
      随后,他便把它穿上了身
      其实这也暗合了call me by your name的主题
      以你的名字呼唤我
      从此,我变成了你的一部分,我们再也无法分开
      而此刻,我穿着你的衬衫,我把自己当做是你








      IP属地:天津3楼2017-12-25 21:33
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        03.海边握手
        这一幕没什么,就是画面很美
        甜茶很美,锤子很美,雕塑很美,景致很美
        一切美好都为即将开始的爱情做好了准备
        有一点挺有意思
        也许又是我的过度解读
        用雕塑的手臂握手,而不是两个人握手
        似乎寓意着这段关系从开始牵手的那一刻就注定发生又注定虚幻的一场爱恋
        那座雕塑漂泊了百年,终于遇到了发现它的世人
        就像这两个人,兜兜转转,终于遇到了对方,也注定会遇到对方
        而正因为握手的是雕塑,不是彼此
        似乎暗示着,他们注定走不到尽头
        行吧,我就爱胡思乱想
        大家看美景好了


        IP属地:天津4楼2017-12-25 21:37
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          04.手足的寓意
          在两个人初夜之前
          Oliver留下了纸条,约elio午夜相见
          elio来到露台,Oliver在抽烟
          见elio握住栏杆,掐着烟的手慢慢靠近,然后覆盖了elio的手
          这是由Oliver主动走出的第一步,似乎是为了安抚elio的紧张
          下一刻,elio退缩了,紧张的转身朝卧室走去
          而当两个人试探着拥抱,从而最终达成默契后
          他们坐在床上,elio的脚慢慢靠近Oliver的脚
          Oliver问:does it make you happy
          而后安慰他似的,用脚趾一颗颗掠过他的脚趾
          如果没记错,牵手那段原著中没有,脚趾那段原著中有
          喜欢这一段
          一来是喜欢这种呼应
          二来喜欢Oliver的体贴
          尤其是当他问can i kiss you的时候
          那不是一种试探,而是想到得到的允诺
          就像spn里天使要俯身一定要得到皮囊的同意一样
          不知道为什么,就觉得带着一种圣洁的味道





          IP属地:天津5楼2017-12-25 21:48
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            05.初吻与初夜
            这两段,除了初夜并没有原著中那么香艳以外
            剩下的都非常好,好到出乎我的意料
            崖径上的Oliver最初的试探,描摹着elio嘴唇的轮廓
            elio探身而起,两人试探的靠近着,而后就是那个撩的不行的舔唇
            很喜欢的一点是锤子对于台词的处理
            看原著的时候一直在脑补Oliver那句just don't的语气
            就像那句later一样
            带着一点点漫不经心,带着一点点桀骜不驯
            等听到锤子那句just don't的时候还是很心动
            那种类似于哄小孩似的温柔,那种并不像让对方觉得这件事有多严重的轻描淡写
            那种带着点安慰,又带着点宠溺的拒绝
            艾玛,实在是很让人心动
            再然后要赞一下的就是初夜里那句经典的call me by your name and i will call you by mine
            第一,光线非常美
            第二,配乐非常美
            第三,两人的侧颜非常美
            第四,锤子低沉的嗓音非常美
            总之,除了没有那么多肉有些遗憾以外,其他一切都很美很美






            IP属地:天津6楼2017-12-25 21:49
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              06再次确定
              初夜之后,elio的表现让Oliver困惑
              回到卧室,Oliver的视线落在昨晚两人睡过的床上
              然后眼神一闪,心下了然
              他需要确定一件事
              而后他打开门,让eilo过来,并让他脱下短裤
              他蹲下去做了一个实验
              而后心满意足的关上了门
              关上门后,那个笑容带着点心满意足和一丝丝甜蜜,还有对elio的一丝宠溺
              喜欢这一段,是喜欢锤子的表情处理
              那个眼神变化和那个小微笑处理的实在太棒了





              IP属地:天津7楼2017-12-25 22:09
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                07.车站告别
                车站告别这段最喜欢的是两人对于拥抱的处理
                最初,Oliver主动去拥抱面对离别不知所措的elio
                向一直以来的关系一样,他都是以成年人的身份照顾着未成年的小孩子
                他的小孩子
                拥抱的下一刻,Oliver紧了紧手臂,似乎是要在分别之前,把elio揉进他怀里一并带走
                也许他抱在怀里舍不得放的除了眼前的人,还有这段注定夭折的情,以及再也回不去的那一部分自我
                片刻,Oliver要抽出怀抱,却在下一刻被elio抓住了身后的衣服,止住了去势
                Oliver心下了然,微笑着又抱紧了elio
                他知道,这个孩子还没有做好放手的准备
                他还没有完成属于他的告别
                像从前一样,只要能让他快乐,他愿意
                离别总是让人伤感的,而作为这段关系中的成年人,Oliver所能做的就是尽一切可能把离别的伤害降到最低
                再次赞一下两位主演的细节处理
                包括小甜茶在离开怀抱之后下意识摸喉咙的那个动作
                把那种哽在喉咙哭不出的难受以这样一种无声无息的方式展现出来
                很棒




                IP属地:天津8楼2017-12-25 22:11
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                  08.爸爸的话
                  没什么别的
                  就是爸爸的话在原著中也是非常喜欢的一部分
                  尤其那句Parce que c'était lui, parce que c'était moi
                  一切关系事实上都是这样
                  因为是他,因为是我
                  再无其他
                  很多时候,我们遇不到那个他
                  只是遇到了,一定不要放手
                  不要浪费了所有的时光
                  以下为小说原文摘录
                  "Parce que c'était lui, parce que c'était moi," my father added, quoting Montaigne's all-encompassing explanation for his friendship with Etienne de la Boetie.
                  I was thinking, instead, of Emily Brontë's words: because "he's more myself than I am."
                  "Oliver may be very intelligent—," I began. Once again, the disingenuous rise in intonation announced a damning but hanging invisibly between us. Anything not to let my father lead me any further down this road.
                  "Intelligent? He was more than intelligent. What you two had had everything and nothing to do with intelligence. He was good, and you were both lucky to have found each other, because you too are good."
                  My father had never spoken of goodness this way before. It disarmed me.
                  "I think he was better than me, Papa."
                  "I am sure he'd say the same about you, which natters the two of you."
                  He was about to tap his cigarette and, in leaning toward the ashtray, he reached out and touched my hand.
                  "What lies ahead is going to be very difficult," he started to say, altering his voice. His tone said: We don't have to speak about it, but let's not pretend we don't know what I'm saying.
                  Speaking abstractly was the only way to speak the truth to him.
                  "Fear not. It will come. At least I hope it does. And when you least expect it. Nature has cunning ways of finding our weakest spot. Just remember: I am here. Right now you may not want to feel anything. Perhaps you never wished to feel anything. And perhaps it's not with me that you'll want to speak about these things. But feel something you did."
                  I looked at him. This was the moment when I should lie and tell him he was totally off course. I was about to.
                  "Look," he interrupted. "You had a beautiful friendship. Maybe more than a friendship. And I envy you. In my place, most parents would hope the whole thing goes away, or pray that their sons land on their feet soon enough. But I am not such a parent. In your place, if there is pain, nurse it, and if there is a flame, don't snuff it out, don't be brutal with it. Withdrawal can be a terrible thing when it keeps us awake at night, and watching others forget us sooner than we'd want to be forgotten is no better. We rip out so much of ourselves to be cured of things faster than we should that we go bankrupt by the age of thirty and have less to offer each time we start with someone new. But to feel nothing so as not to feel anything—what a waste!"
                  I couldn't begin to take all this in. I was dumbstruck.
                  "Have I spoken out of turn?" he asked.
                  I shook my head.
                  "Then let me say one more thing. It will clear the air. I may have come close, but I never had what you had. Something always held me back or stood in the way. How you live your life is your business. But remember, our hearts and our bodies are given to us only once. Most of us can't help but live as though we've got two lives to live, one is the mockup, the other the finished version, and then there are all those versions in between. But there's only one, and before you know it, your heart is worn out, and, as for your body, there comes a point when no one looks at it, much less wants to come near it. Right now there's sorrow. I don't envy the pain. But I envy you the pain."
                  He took a breath.
                  "We may never speak about this again. But I hope you'll never hold it against me that we did. I will have been a terrible father if, one day, you'd want to speak to me and felt that the door was shut or not sufficiently open."
                  I wanted to ask him how he knew. But then how could he not have known? How could anyone not have known? "Does Mother know?" I asked. I was going to say suspect but corrected myself. "I don't think she does." His voice meant, But even if she did, I am sure her attitude would be no different than mine.
                  We said good night. On my way upstairs I vowed to ask him about his life. We'd all heard about his women when he was young, but I'd never even had an inkling of anything else.
                  Was my father someone else? And if he was someone else, who was I?



                  IP属地:天津9楼2017-12-25 22:11
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                    09.你是我的光明与火焰,带给我极乐与极寒
                    最后的哭戏
                    层次分明
                    一层层剥离两人之间的关系
                    从最初暗暗地愤怒,失落,被背叛的伤心
                    到后来点滴回忆汇聚心头的甜蜜
                    到后来确信了对方记得所有,你无悔,我无怨的坚定
                    到后来的感谢与怀恋
                    到最后再见了我的爱的释然
                    一段一段又走了一遍两人的前路
                    一层一层走进了对方和自己的心
                    像剥洋葱一样,剥到最后,毫无保留
                    还有一点就是光明节和壁炉的象征意义
                    自始至终Oliver都是耀眼的
                    他到来的日子是盛夏,如阳光照亮了一切
                    夜晚狂欢的时候,他是星光,周遭一切黯然失色
                    飘雪的冬季,他是火焰,是光明
                    他让elio体验到了爱情的极乐
                    也让elio体验到了分别的极苦

                    你是我的阳光与火焰,带给我极乐与极寒



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                    终于码完了片段
                    最后想说的就是
                    看完小说,最感动的片段莫过于两人的久别重逢
                    但据说电影版貌似会拍第二部,定于两人十年后的重逢
                    于是,我不知道是不是第一部没有小说的后半部分
                    觉得有些遗憾吧大概
                    因为真的好想看两个人十五年后在酒馆里的那段对话
                    两个人的隐忍克制
                    让我想起断臂山里杰克在湖边对恩尼斯说的那句:Sometimes I miss you so much that I canˊt stand it
                    后来,又过了几年,Elio的爸爸过世
                    Oliver回到他们家,两人聊着逝去的曾经
                    Oliver说他记得一切,Elio在心底说了最后的独白
                    每次看到这段,我都忍不住在想
                    他们还会再见吗?
                    Elio说,如果这是此生最后一次见面
                    那么,如果真的是最后一次见面呢
                    所以,总在脑补他们最后一次见面的不同场景
                    有Oliver垂垂老矣,独自怀念过去
                    有Elio已过中年,去探望即将离世的Oliver
                    有他们彼此相守着走完人生最后一段
                    也有他们只是见面,握手,一别成永别
                    甚至还有街角的偶遇,Elio也终于有了爱人和孩子,擦肩而过,不敢相认
                    总觉得,总要有一场告别吧
                    反正就是yy无罪就好了
                    ok,话唠完毕,洗洗睡觉


                    IP属地:天津10楼2017-12-25 22:12
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                      喜欢楼主的yy,作为非原著党,一方面觉得既是注定离别,一次便已足够,另一方面又想看看两个有更多生活阅历的人相聚后会如何怀恋那个夏日意大利小镇的邂逅,不管怎样,都很期待续作,但现在更想看到导演手中的4个多小时的完整版。


                      IP属地:湖北来自iPhone客户端11楼2017-12-25 23:46
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                        甜茶实在惊为天人。锤子的魅力展现不足。不知小说里如何?


                        IP属地:广东来自iPhone客户端12楼2017-12-26 00:09
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                          导演说过未减之前片场接近4小时,几乎所有的场景都拍了。也许迟些会有完整版或加长版。


                          IP属地:马来西亚13楼2017-12-26 00:25
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                            谁是1?🌚🌚


                            IP属地:广西来自iPhone客户端14楼2017-12-26 07:36
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                              楼主写的很棒啊


                              IP属地:内蒙古来自Android客户端15楼2017-12-26 08:38
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