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关于突然火起来的黄石公园狼21和42,有人求证了原文,发现42是真正的领导者,Rick Mclntyre观察过的其他狼群也都是阿尔法母狼是领导者,所以狼究竟是母系社会还是其他?或者更为多样?比如有两头阿尔法权力相当一起领导,也有一方权力更大的情况。




IP属地:福建来自Android客户端1楼2021-06-17 16:38回复
    我挺懵的,一直认为狼不是母系社会,公母alpha同为领导者


    IP属地:福建来自Android客户端2楼2021-06-17 16:43
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      @黑羽嗥月 @arken @喜乐蒂小Q


      IP属地:福建来自Android客户端3楼2021-06-17 16:56
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        大佬们求解答


        IP属地:福建来自Android客户端4楼2021-06-17 16:56
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          借用一位朋友的话:
          狼群本来就是双阿尔法结构,由一对阿尔法狼统领整个狼群,但狼群内部其实并不存在什么首领命令模式,即使是阿尔法也不能任意妄为,指挥别的狼,21的原配雌性阿尔法40,就是因为性格极端,就被狼群推翻了。所以与其说狼群中是谁说了算,不如说是其他狼愿意听谁的。就比如原文提到的捕猎,就算是21,他也不能强迫别的狼跟着他,去哪里捕猎实际上是狼群内部的想法达成了统一共识后,再由动作表现出来。
          根本不需要在意雄性雌性头狼哪一只更有权力,雄性、雌性头狼都有机会占主导。例如非常出名的北极狼Brutus, 风暴都是雄性头狼。
          挺惊讶居然有人单独把这段话截出来强调阿尔发母狼更有权力,不如再看看访谈中的另一段,原文如下:
          What was the relationship of 21 and 42 like?
          Both lived long lives for wild wolves. The average life span in Yellowstone is about four to five years but 21 and 42 lived twice as long as that average. They spend two-thirds of their lives together and were very attached to each other.
          牠们一生中有2/3的时间都在一起,而且非常依恋彼此。
          正因为互相信任依赖才会把领导权交给对方,反转哥咋不学学呢?


          IP属地:中国香港来自Android客户端5楼2021-06-17 19:06
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            另外附上一段M21 领导狼群的记录:
            7:35PM: M21, the alpha male of the Druids, arrives on the scene. If body language could speak, it was obvious M21 said to his kids, “Com’on guys. Quit picking on the neighbors and lets go hunting!” Leading his pack of mostly yearling wolves, he trots off with the youngsters strung out behind him.
            这段话怎麽解释,小狼背叛了妈妈


            IP属地:中国香港来自Android客户端6楼2021-06-17 19:08
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              狼群是跟着有经验的家长走,不看性别的。这种言论就是强行代性别带节奏。


              IP属地:江苏7楼2021-06-17 19:28
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                微博:随时随地发现新鲜S.B


                IP属地:江苏8楼2021-06-17 19:33
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                  来自Android客户端9楼2021-06-17 20:19
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                    对了,如果还有人对狼是母系社会或者雄性雌性阿尔发谁地位更高感到疑惑,这里放上一段2003 年Douglas Smith(黄石狼群引入计划带领人) 的访谈:
                    Q. Would you say that wolf society is matriarchal or patriarchal?
                    A. I would call males and females equal. They have a dominance hierarchy that is separate by gender. The alpha male and alpha female work out pack leadership together. But that can change by season, and it can also change from pack to pack.
                    Wolf behavior is frustrating to study because everybody wants to categorize, and wolves are as variable as people. We had, for instance, a female wolf, 40, who ruled her group, the Druid Peak pack, really above the male. Now, when she had puppies, her mate, 21, led; 40 ruled her pack with an iron fist. She was killed in 2000 by her pack mates, her female mates, some of whom were her daughters.
                    In another pack, the Leopolds, it was hard to tell if the alpha male, 2, or the alpha female, 7, led it. In fact, 7 led with a very unassuming, almost hidden style. You knew she was the leader because the other wolves deferred to her. Now, with 40, you knew she was the leader because she kicked the pants off any female that looked at her cross-eyed.


                    IP属地:中国香港来自Android客户端10楼2021-06-17 23:35
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                      谁有经验善捕猎性格好易相处就跟谁,不存在绝对的哪方领导,或者说不存在什么领导,觉得谁的决策好就跟谁。但如果在麻麻们养育幼崽还不能出窝太远的时候,捕猎的重担基本是在粑粑们身上的。


                      IP属地:湖北来自Android客户端11楼2021-06-18 01:32
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                        看过那篇讲21的文章 当看到那句 后来他的尸体被发现在一个山尖上 曾经21和42带着儿女在那里玩耍 特别想哭 狼真的是感情真挚的动物 希望21和42在另一个世界可以继续相爱


                        IP属地:安徽来自iPhone客户端12楼2021-06-23 21:00
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