【發佈版介紹】Artix: 沒有 systemd 的 Arch

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iTWire: Systemd seems to depart to a large extent from the original idea of simplicity that was a hallmark of UNIX systems. Would you agree? And is this a good or a bad thing?
Linus Torvalds: So I think many of the "original ideals" of UNIX are these days more of a mindset issue than necessarily reflecting reality of the situation.
There's still value in understanding the traditional UNIX "do one thing and do it well" model where many workflows can be done as a pipeline of simple tools each adding their own value, but let's face it, it's not how complex systems really work, and it's not how major applications have been working or been designed for a long time. It's a useful simplification, and it's still true at *some* level, but I think it's also clear that it doesn't really describe most of reality.
It might describe some particular case, though, and I do think it's a useful teaching tool. People obviously still do those traditional pipelines of processes and file descriptors that UNIX is perhaps associated with, but there's a *lot* of cases where you have big complex unified systems.
And systemd is in no way the piece that breaks with old UNIX legacy. Graphical applications seldom worked that way (there are certainly _echoes_ of it in things like "LyX", but I think it's the exception rather than the rule), and then there's obviously the traditional counter-example of GNU emacs, where it really was not about the "simple UNIX model", but a whole new big infrastructure thing. Like systemd.
Now, I'm still old-fashioned enough that I like my log-files in text, not binary, so I think sometimes systemd hasn't necessarily had the best of taste, but hey, details..

有一天开发突然问服务器上有没有装systemd，我说没有。开发就问能不能装个systemd来做进程管理……问题服务器是centos6的……不知道他们哪里听来用systemd做进程管理的……

这个帖子.可以去linux distribution timeline 提一个iss.

虽然一直用gentoo,但是早先听闻Arch的AUR中有openrc的包.
现在主力gentoo用的还是system的,ESXI里gentoo总是莫名其妙的各种错误,换openrc省心.

虽然systemd为了省了不少新,但是我还是喜欢独立的去配置各种信息
systemd的并发启动确实优秀,但是对于服务器来说启动速度并不能体现服务器的价值
日志管理,据说systemd更优秀..吧主有什么看法,来说下.
@九十钩圈凯_

systemd这么好用的为什么要反对它
服务器配置好之后一个systemctl解决全部问题

萌新两年多前才入坑从没用过除systemd外的init
话说吧主真一直就是Arch+OpenRC一路过来的？

在 Artix 刚出来时科大镜像站那边提交过申请，卡在了 need vote... 后来 SF 的源没了之后基本就没有源了...
[extra] 和 [community] 用 Arch 的倒还行...
Init 的选择嘛... 倒没啥偏好...

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