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来自2017年7月雅虎英文版的报道:《李绳武:总检.查.署-针对我的行动是.政..治.目.的》文后又230条英文留言.
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1楼2018-07-16 15:06回复
    (第3条)
    LOL this guy is good. I like him. Whatever he posted, it is posted up on his fb privately in the US not in Singapore since he is working in the states. Therefore, in states, it is freedom of speech. Neither AGC or LHL are eligible to hold him up to court also.
    哈哈,这家伙不错。我喜欢他。不管他贴了什么,都是私下贴在他在美国的fb上,而不是在新加坡,因为他在美国工作。因此,在国家,它是言论自由。总检.查.署和李显龙都没有资格将他告上法庭。
    (第4条)Just something from atop a fence - even if its 'politically motivated', is it against the law. Within a framework of abidations there are many tributaries.只是一个篱笆上的东西——即使它有“政治动机”,也是违法的。在停泊的框架内,有许多支流。
    (第5条) You can money of course can go other country lor, normal people just have to suck thumb
    你有钱,当然可以把钱花在别的国家,普通人只要吮拇指就行了.
    (第6条)He who calls for the piper pays for the tune呼唤笛子手为笛子的曲调付出代价。


    8楼2018-07-16 16:57
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      (第二条留言,重写。为防止再吞楼,有的词语我只好用近义词了)
      Hello, on one hand say family cannot sue, on the other hand family sue. Then on one hand, TCH was called a liar by LHY and based on LHL said of all Ministers must sue yet TCH did not sue and yet LHY is not family. I am confused.
      So sue or not sue? family got consideration or not?
      Hello, can stop practicing double standards or not. Don't you know, as government, you must be consistent。
      您好,一方面说家庭不能起.诉(指李显龙说不告弟妹),另一方面家庭起.诉(指告侄子李绳武)。一方面,故TCH被李显扬称为骗子,根据李显龙的说法,所有部长都必须起.诉,但TCH没有起诉,李显扬不是家人。我很困惑。 起.诉还是不起-诉?家人有没有考虑过?
      您好,可以停止实践双.重.标.准或不。难道你不知道,作为政fu,你必须始终如一吗?
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      后面8条回复。
      They're distant cousins他们是远方表亲。
      Family no sue. AG not his brother. Bo bian ......
      You very very very the kong kum one !!!!!!!
      Heeheeheeheheehehehehehe
      家人没有被起-诉。他(指李绳武)不是他(指李显龙)的兄弟。波卞, 你非常非常孔雀!!!! 嘻嘻嘻呵呵。
      Cannot sue brother and sister. LHL is afraid It will open up a can of worms.不能起-诉弟妹。李显龙很怕会打开一罐虫子。
      TCH must listen to big brother. Bo bian .....Heeheehehhehehe ..... LO.
      TCH一定要听大哥的,嘻嘻嘻嘻嘻大笑。
      brother against brother cannot sue , against others yes , he not my brother .... sue la ... sue until pants drop哥哥对弟弟不能起.诉,对他人可以,他不是我的弟弟....起诉他(李绳武)直到裤子落下。
      Basically, they look very stupid to the other countries. Fortunately, the other countries have the grace and sense to NOT hold this as a reflection of Singapore or its people.
      基本上,他们在其他国家看起来很愚蠢。幸运的是,其他国家有风度和理智,不把这视为新加坡或新加坡人.民..的反映。
      Haha, family "cannot" sue, must act act to the public to show value family ties but if "independent" bodies go after family then "not his fault" loh
      哈哈,家庭“不能”起.诉,一定要向公众展示家庭关系的价值,但如果是“独立”的身体,那么就“不是他的错”了。
      Then please make sure LHY is sued. Can see the contradiction? Are you now as confused as I am? How about TCH? Why he can don't sue?
      那么请确保李显扬被.起-诉了。能看出矛盾吗?你现在和我一样困惑吗?TCH怎么样?他为什么不敢起.诉(李显扬)?


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        来自Android客户端13楼2018-07-16 23:08
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          (第9条)
          Majority of Singaporeans having 吃喝玩乐 life style, not interested in basic justice, freedom and democracy of citizens. Relying on foreign talents to save Government and Singapore in case of crisis? Wait and see
          大多数新加坡人吃喝玩乐生活方式,对公民的基本正义、自由和民主不感兴趣。危机中依靠外来人才挽救政府和新加坡?观望
          ------
          下面2跟帖: Exactly. Many even trade them for gst voucher lol没错。许多人甚至用它们来换取商品服务税凭证,大笑
          Enjoy yourself. No worry. Be a talent can leow. Have talent will travel.Heeheehe..... LOL. 尽情享受吧。不用担心。做个能人就可以了。有才华的人会旅行.哈哈。


          17楼2018-07-17 11:36
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            (第10条)
            Hey since Singapore has a extradition treaty with the US, let's see if our Law Minister and the AG has the balls to do that! All bark and no bite I bet you! 嘿,新加坡和美国订有引渡条约,看看我们的法律部长和总检.查.署有没有胆量这么做!我敢打赌,你只会吠叫,不会咬人!
            ---------跟帖
            1,最好还是让他们亲自去美国寻求引渡回国!可能美国法官会首先驱逐他们!哈哈
            2,你(指李绳武)认为美国更好,就去美国生活吧。
            3,回复2楼:美国不好?至少他们不会抢夺你在这里的生意…棺材也卖,收高额的工厂租金,收高额的商场租金,收高额的小贩中心租金,Si-Meh Bu-Cho…时期。
            4,回复2楼:你和你的小厮们只会欺负普通新加坡人!但说到大鱼,你们这些笨蛋就想转移话题!
            5,回复2楼:在说什么?你认为住在新加坡是一种乐趣吗?把你的脑袋弄直,伙计!
            6,什么时候有新加坡人从美国被引.渡到新加坡?如此无知。向美国投降……而不是反过来
            7,4楼说的是对的。如果人.民.行.动-党有确凿的证据,他们应该毫不犹豫地寻求引.渡,当然,除非他们自己另有所知。
            8, 回复6楼:作为参考,引渡条约是双向的——谢谢你这么无知!
            9,回复8楼:你说6楼的无知,你在这里才是最无知的.
            10,(8楼的再次发言):我并不无知。当然引渡条约是双向的,但美国有没有把罪..犯引.渡到新加坡?有一些生活在美国的新加坡异.议人士没有被引.渡。但新加坡引.渡了美国的要求。这不是无知,而是现实。
            11,在美.国联.邦.法.律看来,绳武的所作所为完全合法。引.渡.条.约的精神是,当美.国法.律认为被告无罪时,美国不会将其引.渡回一个国家接受.审.判。因此,如果新加坡提出要求,引.渡是不可能的
            12, 我敢打赌,如果总检.查.署要求引.渡,美国会告诉总检.查.署去放风筝。他们完全了解新加坡政腹 /司发系.统使用诉讼/威胁来应对任何纷争.
            13,回复8和10楼: 如果你不想别人叫你无知,那就不要再叫别人了。谢谢你。
            14,以前没有做过,因为没有要求,也没有法律依据——所以不要以为如果真要求引渡,将来就不会发生.
            15,引渡不是万能的,通常是重罪。你未付停车费而收到法.院.传.票跑到美国,你认为他们会费心引渡你吗?
            16, 不行.只有在美国也认为引.渡是犯.罪的情况下,引.渡才会起作用。如果在美国管.辖范围内不是犯.罪,那么他们不会引.渡。也许我在V部分的智商太高了?
            17,回复3楼:我太无知了,我不知道他们还.卖棺材.
            18, 回复16楼:你为什么同意它不起作用?因为你知道而且已经知道,尽管你一直否认你的主人李显龙和他在总检.查.署的亲信是小丑!恭喜你被曝光了!
            19,美国很高兴有李绳武,可以用他来强调新加坡缺乏言.论.自.由和人..权


            18楼2018-07-17 14:05
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              (第11条)Li Sheng Wu don't join politics, his uncle will pass order don't sue. Li SW join politics which not on his PM uncle side, LHL definitely will sue cos LSW is a strong opponent for pap.
              李绳武不加入政治,他的叔叔会通过命令不起.诉他。 李绳武若从政而不在他叔叔一边,李显龙肯定会起.诉他,因为李绳武是人.民行.动.党的强有力对手。
              (第12条)LHL, can't you see that the Lee Family dynasty is going down the drain? Pl step down and let family feuds be family feuds and not of a National scale. The whole world is laughing at the Lee Family problems being escalated into a National problem, with abuse of powers when necessary.李显龙,你难道看不出李家王朝正在没落吗?总.理.下-台,让家庭不和成为家庭不和,而不是全国性的。全世界都在嘲笑李家问题升级为全国性问题,必要时滥用权力。
              (第13条)
              Hi Miss LWL and Mr LXL,Use your nuke if you still have it! Or else all the properties in Singapore will be seized and your nephew/son will always be a fugitive!嗨,李玮玲小姐和李显龙先生,如果你还有核武器,就用它!否则新加坡的所有财产都将被没收,你的侄子/儿子将永远在逃!


              19楼2018-07-17 14:18
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                (第14条)
                How can a private post lead to public prosecution? It's ridiculous. Go catch the Coffeeshop gossips too. No freedom of speech and expression. The people is neither blind, deaf nor mute 私人贴文如何导致公.诉?这太荒谬了。去抓咖啡厅的闲话吧。没有言.论和言.论自由。人民不盲.不聋.也不哑 .
                (第15条)
                Of course its politically motivated. Lee hsien yang did not take part in politics even when his father coaxed him. Li Shengwu has the possibility of entering into politics and probably he knows alot of misdeeds done by LHL, better to strike early. 当然,这是出于政治动机。甚至在父亲哄他时李显扬也不从事政.治.活动。李绳武有可能进入.政.界,也许他知道李显龙做了很多坏事,最好早点出击。
                ---------------3跟帖
                1,李光耀没有哄李显龙从政,当时的外交部长拉贾拉特南为李光耀做了这件事。他在国会说,仅仅因为李显龙是李光耀的儿子,就剥夺他在政.治上的潜力是不公平的。当人.民.行.动-党.控.制的国会张开双臂和双腿欢迎李显龙时,达到了预期的目的.
                2,李绳武在你背后尖叫,然后告诉你他想从政,哈哈哈哈哈
                3,哈哈哈,你得同意.....既然你提到“李绳武有从政的可能”.... 你对政.治.动.机的看法有两种方式对吗???


                23楼2018-07-17 15:03
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                  (第16条)
                  If AGC wants to play this game , i would highly suggest sue them at the highest courts available for publishing the stuff without your permission . The LHL gov DO NOT , i repeat , DO NOT , have any powers to dig into your private posts without your permission .All you need to do is to prove that the posts were of private nature and that no permission were sought from you . Then it is done , collect your millions in defamation your integrity . Im sure the integrity of the grandson of the late LKY would be worth quite a lot.
                  如果总检.查.署想玩这个游戏,我强烈建议他们在未经你许可的情况下向最高.法.院起.诉。我重复一遍,李显龙政扶没有任何权力在未经你许可的情况下挖.掘你的私人贴文。你所需要做的就是证明这些贴文是私人性质的,没有得到你的许可。那就这样吧,收你几百万诽.谤.你的诚信。我相信,已故李光耀的孙子的正直,将是非常值得的。
                  (第17条)
                  Li Shengwu is the man they fear most. This is the golden opportunity to bar him from returning to Singapore. Well done doggies. 李绳武是他们最害怕的人。这是阻止他返回新加坡的绝好机会。干得好狗狗们。
                  ------后面2跟帖
                  1,是的,.....说你驴(愚蠢),哈哈哈哈哈大笑
                  2,不能。他怎么去骨。灰安置所为他已故的爷爷背诵祈祷文?你这个该死的没心没肺的菜。


                  24楼2018-07-17 15:14
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                    (第21条)
                    LSW, you hv fallen into LHL's family traps.
                    As usual, he uses the court to bar those who are of threat to him to enter SG.
                    Any entry, will allow him to use State Machine to arrest u.
                    LSW, stay wise and stay in Harvard. Uses your students to broadcast this EVIL empire under LHL who destroy SG single-handedly 李绳武,你掉进了李显龙一家的陷阱。 像往常一样,他利用法.庭来禁止那些对他有威胁的人进入政扶。 任何条目,都允许他使用国家.机.器来逮.捕你。 请保持明智,留在哈佛。利用你的学生来广播这个邪恶的国家,在李显龙的领导下他一手摧毁了新加坡政扶.
                    (第22条)
                    AGC is acting on LHL's orders. Few months ago your father (Yang) had already said that he expects actions from our government agencies against him and family. Hence he had to plan to leave Singapore for a
                    while and believe that he's in HK currently.Now the actions against Yang's family has just started now. Hope he can find safety somewhere
                    and I think he has made arrangements for living in exile for some time.
                    Here we see how dirty and dangerous are politics even siblings are not
                    excluded. Power and wealth rule the world !! Being ordinary people like
                    us where do we stand?
                    总检.查.署正在按照李显龙的命.令行事。几个月前,你父亲(扬)已经表示,他相信我们的政.扶机.构在采取行动
                    对付他和家人。因此他不得不计划离开新加坡,相信他现在在香港。现在对(扬)家.的行动现在才刚刚开始。希望他能找到安全的地方.我想他已经安排了一段时间流亡生活。
                    在这里,我们看到政.治是多么肮.脏和危.险,甚至连兄弟姐妹也排除在外。权..力和财富统.治.世界!!普通人就像 我们又站在哪?


                    26楼2018-07-17 15:40
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                      (第28条)
                      only 'brother'. -- even nephew is not spared. -- what about you ordinary people ?? especially part of the 70% whom think they can leeck & suckle 'professionally'.
                      只有“兄弟”。甚至连侄子也不能幸免。你们这些普通人呢?特别是认为他们可以“专业地”吸奶的70%的那些人。
                      -------1跟帖-----大多数70%的选民都选择了LHL N团队作为政府。有什么反对意见吗?
                      (第29条)
                      Would ACG dare to sue LSW in the U.S? Probably not, because the case will be thrown into the garbage bin.
                      总检.查.署敢在美国起诉李绳武吗?可能不会,因为案.件会被扔进垃圾桶。
                      (第30条) Hi,A groundless accusation (莫须有的罪名)!
                      ----3跟帖-------
                      1, 谁???我希望你看对了
                      2,李绳武表示,新加坡法院系统是顺从的。这不是对新加坡法院系统的攻击吗?
                      3, 嗨,私人Facebook上的个人观点不是犯罪!连我都看不到,别人呢?他们瞎了吗?


                      29楼2018-07-17 16:37
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                        (第31条)
                        Good luck people. just look, the dishonorable son that YOU voted. Now an uncle eating his own nephew. what do you think he can do to YOU ?? YES, YOU ordinary people ??
                        祝大家好运。瞧,你投选的那个不光彩的儿子。现在一个叔叔吃自己的侄子。你认为他能对你做什么?是的,你们这些普通人??
                        (第32条) This Lee family dispute started by the highest-paid PM,(including President) in the world has evolved into a vendettta against any member of siblings,who dares to criticise him.
                        This is like going back to the days,when anyone could be castrated without any legal representation and locked up in a facility for life for going against the government.
                        This must be the worst National Day ever to have such actions taken by AG,as ordered.
                        这场由世界上收入最高的首相(包括总.统)挑起的李氏家族纠纷,已经演变成对任何敢于批评他的兄弟姐妹的仇杀。
                        这就像回到过去,任何人在没有法.律代表的情况下被.阉.割,被关在一个反政扶的终身.监.禁设施里。
                        这一定是有史以来最糟糕的一个国庆节,总检.查.署按照命令采取了这样的行动


                        30楼2018-07-17 16:50
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                          (第33条)A young man with convictions and guts. Hope you dont end up like some before you whose lives were destroyed一个有信念和勇气的年轻人。希望你不会像以前那些人一样,在生命结束前提前被摧毁。
                          ——3跟帖——
                          1.只有天坑没有球?大声笑
                          2.勇气,不要回来……哈哈哈他的什么大勇气
                          3.感谢诚实......大声笑
                          (第34条)The wrath of the Lees - among themselves after unleashing it on even perceived slight done by others..李家的愤怒-他们在自己释放它之后,甚至被别人认为是轻微的。
                          (第35条)AGC is such a laughable state organ.. pliant in nature by the influence of LHL and his cronies
                          总-检.查.署是如此可笑的国.家机.关..受李显龙和他的亲信的影响,本质上是顺从的


                          来自Android客户端31楼2018-07-17 17:20
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                            (第36条)it all boils down to the control of the HUGE MULTI HUNDEREDS OF BILLIONSSS$$ of GIC & TH cookies jars by the dishonorable son, his chingy & the inner circle of the secret Illuminati members. -- tua phi & jiak liao bee are 2 of the bigger beneficiaries.这一切都归结为无不光彩的儿子和他的秘密光明会成员的核心集团控制了数百万亿美元的GIC & TH饼干罐。- tua phi & jiaK是两个较大的受益者。
                            (第37条)Hi! There goes the old chinese saying : Power & Wealth will never survive through the 3rd generation.!嗨。中国有一句名言:权力和财富传不过三代!
                            ——3跟帖,都是嘲笑楼主傻的。
                            (第38条)Hi ! Why is Singapore so happy ? Because no ordinary folks can fight with the " Mighty PAP machinery....."...Here we see the grandson of LKY fighting against the establishment which will be a memory for years to come嗨!新加坡为什么这么高兴?因为没有一个普通人能与“强大的党.机.器”作战....."...在这里,我们看到了李光耀的孙子与当权者的斗争,这将是未来几年的记忆。
                            (第39条)iT IS VERY DIFFICULT T GET THE CURRENT pap GARMEN TO ADMIN ITS SHORT-COMING AS pap IS BLINDED BY ITS OWN POLICY "OWNSELF CHECK OWNSELF" WORST, "OWNSELF GIVE JUDGEMENT TO OWNSELF" SIGH.. TOO MANY OWNSELF POLICIES... pap, YOU KNOW WHAT IS MY FEEL NOW FOR pap? WILL KNOW IN NEXT GE...当人民.行-动档被自己的政策“自我检查自己”所蒙蔽,最糟糕的是“自己对自己的自我判断”叹息时,短板很难得到当前政档的管理。太多的自我政策…爸爸,你知道我现在对帕帕有什么感觉吗?将在下一个选.举知道…


                            来自Android客户端33楼2018-07-17 17:41
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                              (第41条)
                              When LHL privately told Teo CH (this private conversation was later spread to public knowledge) that he does not recognize the VALIDITY of the LKY's Will, which has been granted probate by the Courts. LHL did not challenge the Court's ruling during the 6-months window period for him to do so LEGALLY, but he continued to whisper DOUBTS about the legal validity that Will secretly and privately behind the backs of the Courts and the legal Executors of the Will (LHY/LWL). So is LHL's actions not deemed as committing the "Contempt of Court" offence too????
                              If indeed so, can the AGC please serve a legal notification to LHL to demand his withdrawal of his statements of doubt, and issue a PUBLIC APOLOGY to the Judiciary?
                              NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, including the PM!
                              当李显龙私下告诉Teo CH (这一私下谈话后来被传播到公众面前)他不承认李光耀的遗嘱是有效的,这份遗嘱已经被法庭授予了遗嘱认证。在六个月的时间里,李显龙没有对法庭的裁决提出质疑,但他继续在法庭和遗嘱执行人背后私下对法律效力表示怀疑( 李显扬 / 李玮玲 )。那么,李显龙的行为是否也被视为犯有“藐.视.法停”罪????
                              如果确实如此,总检.查.署-能否向李显龙发出法绿通知,要求他撤回他的疑问声明,并向司-法机-构公开道歉?
                              没有人能凌驾于法绿之上,包括总-理.
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                              1, ?李显龙说,他回避了有关欧斯礼路故居的任何讨论或决定,但他告诉委员会,他对李光耀的遗嘱的有效性有疑问。这不是就对委员会“投入”、“影响”、“指明方向”等等吗???
                              2, 以下是2017年6月16日ST报告的摘录:
                              "..李总-理说,没有证据显示李光耀先生知道拆迁条款被重新插入最后遗嘱。"他还对李太太(林学芬)参与最后遗嘱的准备和签.署表示关切,因为她丈夫将从取消李医生(李玮玲)在最后遗嘱中的额外份额中获益。
                              至于他为何没有在法停上质疑最后遗嘱的有效性,李总里表示,他希望避免公.开对.抗,以免损害李光耀先生及其家人的名誉和声誉。他的兄弟姐妹昨晚通过Facebook上的多个帖子回击了他的说法。
                              李显扬先生重申,遗嘱是最终的、具有约束力的,并说:“显龙不应该利用下属委员会在法停上指.控他不敢指.控的事情。"但李总里说,必须询问有关最后遗嘱的情况,围绕着最后的遗嘱,“我认为有必要超越最后的意志,以确定李光耀先生对众.议.院的想法和愿望。"
                              ========= 事实是:
                              距离李显龙对法院授予李光耀遗嘱认证的裁.决提出法绿质疑的期限已经超过一年。
                              尽管新加坡法绿确实允许在期限到期后对已经授予遗嘱认证的遗嘱提出异议,但这仅适用于在法院授予遗嘱认证之前不知道的新的“怀疑”证据的情况下。
                              而李显龙现在公开表达的所谓“怀疑”,是在他2015月10日在法庭上获得遗嘱的时候,和在法绿挑战的窗口期届满之前(由APR 2016)所知道的。这已经众所周知。 而在2017年6月,李显龙继续诋毁这一具有法绿约束力的遗嘱的法绿效力。他甚至成立(或指示其内阁下属成立)秘密“部长级委员会”,恶意破坏这一具有法绿约束力的意愿的内容。
                              这是从互联网上搜索到的“藐视法庭”的字典定义:
                              “故意不服从或无视法律、规章或公共当局(如法院或立法机构)的礼仪的行为。
                              个人如果违抗命令、不遵守要求、篡改文件、隐瞒证据、以行动或言语中断诉讼程序,或以其他方式藐视公共当局或对其进行嘲笑和不尊重,可能会被控藐视法庭。"
                              那么,李显龙的行为是不是等于藐视法停???参与“部长委员会”的部长们难道不也是藐视法停罪吗???


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