【Another man】Jake Gyllenhaal is a changed man
这个访谈是我觉得最近看过的他的相关访谈里讨论最深入最有意思的一次，隔着文字好像能触碰到他美丽灵魂的冰山一角。10年前的gq访谈也是这个记者做的，所以里面出现了一些当时的情景再现，而那次也是他08年后第一次在公众面前谈起希斯。
这里只节选了断背山相关，其实整篇访谈都特别有料，有他对电影角色的回顾，有关于食物和料理的狂热表白（我才知道日本黄瓜和波斯黄瓜长得差不多！），有喜爱英国的理由（看英国家庭烘焙大赛乐此不疲），有裱自己照片和关于给猫上保险的传闻（原来他对猫过敏），有去不丹旅行的感悟，还有ninestories的由来和他成立公司的初衷，以及和希斯的奥斯卡小插曲。
Just before he leaves, we talk about a key moment in his past, Ang Lee’s Brokeback Mountain (2005), in which he appeared alongside Heath Ledger. Gyllenhaal told me ten years ago that he couldn’t watch it, and I ask whether that’s still the case. He says it is. He talks – then and now – about the film as though it was something he was fully committed to but which nonetheless in some ways existed beyond his control and understanding. “There are things you’re chosen for – a quality, an essence – and Ang did that. And it’s still a mystery to me. And something that Heath and I shared: that it was a mystery to us at the time.”
I mention to Gyllenhaal that when I recently watched back old TV interviews from the time, I was jolted by how homophobic a lot of the banter seems, even when it was intending to be the opposite: gay cowboys, it’s all a tremendous joke. This reminds him of something.
“I mean, I remember they wanted to do an opening for the Academy Awards that year that was sort of joking about it,” he says. “And Heath refused. I was sort of at the time, ‘Oh, okay... whatever.’ I’m always like: it’s all in good fun. And Heath said, ‘It’s not a joke to me – I don’t want to make any jokes about it.’” I say how smart of Ledger that seems, in retrospect. “Absolutely,” says Gyllenhaal.
His phone keeps pinging, and he clearly needs to go, but even as he prepares to do so, this train of thought leads him to reflect further on occasions, like the filming of Brokeback Mountain where, as he puts it, “the life experiences of them are so deep that no matter how powerful the movie is to many other people, or what it means to them, it means something completely different to me.”
这个访谈是我觉得最近看过的他的相关访谈里讨论最深入最有意思的一次，隔着文字好像能触碰到他美丽灵魂的冰山一角。10年前的gq访谈也是这个记者做的，所以里面出现了一些当时的情景再现，而那次也是他08年后第一次在公众面前谈起希斯。
这里只节选了断背山相关，其实整篇访谈都特别有料，有他对电影角色的回顾，有关于食物和料理的狂热表白（我才知道日本黄瓜和波斯黄瓜长得差不多！），有喜爱英国的理由（看英国家庭烘焙大赛乐此不疲），有裱自己照片和关于给猫上保险的传闻（原来他对猫过敏），有去不丹旅行的感悟，还有ninestories的由来和他成立公司的初衷，以及和希斯的奥斯卡小插曲。
Just before he leaves, we talk about a key moment in his past, Ang Lee’s Brokeback Mountain (2005), in which he appeared alongside Heath Ledger. Gyllenhaal told me ten years ago that he couldn’t watch it, and I ask whether that’s still the case. He says it is. He talks – then and now – about the film as though it was something he was fully committed to but which nonetheless in some ways existed beyond his control and understanding. “There are things you’re chosen for – a quality, an essence – and Ang did that. And it’s still a mystery to me. And something that Heath and I shared: that it was a mystery to us at the time.”
I mention to Gyllenhaal that when I recently watched back old TV interviews from the time, I was jolted by how homophobic a lot of the banter seems, even when it was intending to be the opposite: gay cowboys, it’s all a tremendous joke. This reminds him of something.
“I mean, I remember they wanted to do an opening for the Academy Awards that year that was sort of joking about it,” he says. “And Heath refused. I was sort of at the time, ‘Oh, okay... whatever.’ I’m always like: it’s all in good fun. And Heath said, ‘It’s not a joke to me – I don’t want to make any jokes about it.’” I say how smart of Ledger that seems, in retrospect. “Absolutely,” says Gyllenhaal.
His phone keeps pinging, and he clearly needs to go, but even as he prepares to do so, this train of thought leads him to reflect further on occasions, like the filming of Brokeback Mountain where, as he puts it, “the life experiences of them are so deep that no matter how powerful the movie is to many other people, or what it means to them, it means something completely different to me.”
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