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第一次打招呼是在2月21号的凌晨4:58分
那天早晨醒来后怎么也睡不着
那也是刚开始用Hellotalk的前几天
便发了自己的第一个动态
没多久就收到他发来的“Go to sleep!!!”
和这句话同时收到的还有5、6条打招呼的信息
惊讶居然有人会回复的同时
我开始了和他的聊天
我的头像是巴塞罗那的哥伦布广场
而巴塞罗那也是他的城市
于是 我们就开始了关于巴塞罗那的大讨论
后来实在太困了
也就没有回复他问我有没有去过圣家堂
最后一条消息是他发给我的一张圣家堂的内景
后来的几天我们也就有一搭没一搭地聊着
可能每天几句话的样子
直到有一天中午我说要去医院做康复治疗
因为篮球赛导致的韧带损伤
我们才真正开始深入地聊天
篮球、文学、历史、生活、情感……


IP属地:江苏1楼2020-03-04 11:58回复
    NO.1 篮球
    这也是让我们快速发现共同点的一项运动!
    我们都爱篮球!
    我们都去看过篮球世界杯,我只看了小组赛,而他竟然看了半决赛和决赛!看着自己的国家赢得最后的冠军应该是多开心的事呀!
    我们都受过膝盖的伤,我因为球赛,他因为韧带的先天问题,所以深深明白其中的痛苦;
    我因为受伤,而他因为疫情都打不了篮球,所以我们都表示好想打篮球啊!
    尽管我们的水准都不如以前,但是打篮球就是为了开心,纯粹地享受这项运动!
    从篮球谈到比赛,从篮球服收藏到NBA球星,从诺维茨基的14号国家队球衣到2011年他所在的达拉斯小牛队夺冠,从他在西班牙凌晨看球的经历到分享我们最喜欢的球星,还谈到一起打球的重要的朋友……
    Everything flows so easily!


    IP属地:江苏3楼2020-03-06 22:08
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      No 2. 文学
      作为一个西班牙人,他竟然看过余华、莫言等作家的书
      当然我告诉了他我喜欢西班牙的原因——因为作家三毛
      而他竟然马上说出了加纳利群岛——三毛和荷西从撒哈拉沙漠搬出来以后住的小岛
      他说,因为他在西班牙的中国朋友已经和他介绍过了
      他和我分享了他最喜欢的诗人加西亚洛尔卡的一首诗——《Romance de la Luna, Luna, Luna》
      西语原版Original spanish
      La luna vino a la fragua
      con su polisón de nardos.
      El niño la mira, mira.
      El niño la está mirando.
      En el aire conmovido
      mueve la luna sus brazos
      y enseña, lúbrica y pura,
      sus senos de duro estaño.
      Huye luna, luna, luna.
      Si vinieran los gitanos,
      harían con tu corazón
      collares y anillos blancos.
      Niño, déjame que baile.
      Cuando vengan los gitanos,
      te encontrarán sobre el yunque
      con los ojillos cerrados.
      Huye luna, luna, luna,
      que ya siento sus caballos.
      Niño, déjame, no pises
      mi blancor almidonado.
      El jinete se acercaba tocando el tambor del llano. Dentro de la fragua el niño, tiene los ojos cerrados.
      Por el olivar ven'an, bronce y sueño, los gitanos. Las cabezas levantadas y los ojos entornados.
      Cómo canta la zumaya,
      ¡ay, cómo canta en el árbol!
      Por el cielo va la luna
      con un niño de la mano.
      Dentro de la fragua lloran,
      dando gritos, los gitanos.
      El aire la vela, vela.
      El aire la está velando.
      英文译版English Translated by Helen Gunn, CSU San Marcos
      The moon came to the forge
      with her skirt of white, fragrant flowers.
      The young boy watches her, watches.
      The boy is watching her.
      In the electrified air
      the moon moves her arms
      and points out, lecherous and pure,
      her breasts of hard tin.
      Flee, moon, moon, moon.
      If the gypsies were to come,
      they would make with your heart
      white necklaces and rings.
      Young boy, leave me to dance.
      When they come, the gypsies
      will find you upon the anvil
      with closed eyes.
      Flee, moon, moon, moon.
      Already I sit astride horses.
      Young boy, leave me, don’t step on
      my starched whiteness.
      The horse rider approaches
      beating the drum of the plain.
      Within the forge the young man
      has closed eyes.
      Through the olive grove they come,
      the gypsies – bronze and dreaming,
      heads lifted
      and eyes half closed.
      Hark, hear the night bird –
      how it sings in the tree.
      Across the sky moves the moon,
      holding the young boy by the hand.
      Within the forge the gypsies cry,
      are crying out.
      The air watches over her, watches.
      The air is watching over her.


      IP属地:江苏4楼2020-03-06 22:30
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        2020/3/8
        He loves playing guitar.
        And he played a few songs for me.
        <tears in heaven>, <nothing else matters>, some rock music and so on......
        Most of them are Spanish songs
        They are so peaceful and beautiful
        But the most regrettable part is that he can't sing haha
        But if one day we meet, we shall cooperate a song together...


        IP属地:江苏6楼2020-03-08 23:15
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          No.3 关于情感
          我俩都说好不会是对方的男女朋友
          Love needs a passion.
          He has no passion for me and he wouldn't like me.
          There isn't any logic reason and I totally accept that.
          What I told him was that let's enjoy this pure friendship and make it great!
          我一直相信美好的友谊是能很长久的,希望可以通过不同视角一起探索美丽的世界!


          IP属地:江苏7楼2020-03-08 23:24
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            想和大家分享一首诗歌,是他昨晚分享给我的,名叫《Carpe Diem》,标题是拉丁文,翻译成英文是抓住现在、活在当下的意思,他说标题翻译成“Enjoy the present”,我查了一下百度,可能翻译成“Seize the day”更好。
            我在今天早晨开始学习前读了这首诗,读完感受到一种无与伦比的力量,让我更有信心move on!
            我真的非常喜欢这首诗,也希望大家可以从中收获力量!
            原文如下:
            Carpe Diem
            Do not let the day end without having grown a little,
            without having been happy, without having increased your dreams.
            Do not let yourself be overcome by discouragement.
            Do not let anyone take away the right to express yourself,
            which is almost a must.
            Do not give up the desire to make your life something extraordinary.
            Do not stop believing that words and poetry
            can change the world.
            No matter what, our essence is intact.
            We are passion-full beings.
            Life is a desert and an oasis.
            It knocks us down, it hurts us, it teaches us,
            It makes us protagonists of our own history.
            Although the wind blows against,
            The powerful work continues:
            You can contribute with one stanza.
            Never stop dreaming,
            because in dreams man is free.
            Do not fall into the worst of errors:
            silence.
            The majority lives in a scary silence.
            Do not resign to yourself
            Run away.
            “I create my screams through the roofs of this world”,
            says the poet.
            Appreciates the beauty of simple things.
            You can make beautiful poetry about little things,
            but we can not row against ourselves.
            That transforms life into hell.
            Enjoy the panic that causes you
            the life you have ahead.
            Live it intensely, without mediocrity
            Think that the future is in you
            and face that task with pride and with no fear.
            Learn from those who can teach you.
            The experiences of those who preceded us,
            of our “dead poets”,
            they help you walk through life
            Today’s society is us: The “living poets”.
            Do not let life happen to you without youliving it …


            IP属地:江苏11楼2020-03-09 22:25
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              其实我一直都知道他有很多聊天对象,每天都聊的也有不少,但是当我感受到和我聊天的同时也还在和别人聊天的时候有种莫名的讨厌感~
              这种情形就像是,我在专注和你聊天,而你在同时和多个女生聊天,然后就等啊等,虽然他回复的也不是那么慢,那我真的不喜欢这样一心多用的人,同时我也不止一次觉得自己只是别人无聊时和你聊几句的对象,虽然过程很开心,但我一直觉得自己只是众女孩中的一个而已,我的存在与否别人不会care的……
              于是我告诉他了我的感受,他说他不会因为任何一个人改变,即使是女朋友,我说好啊,我也没想让你改变,focus on聊得最开心的女孩子就好……
              所以我这段时间也不会主动和他聊天了…真没想到这个帖子这么快就迎来了它的结局,也是有点可悲啊!


              IP属地:江苏来自iPhone客户端12楼2020-03-11 16:38
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                我来更新啦!
                03-11那天下午编辑完以为真的结束了,然后就和好友聊到这件事。
                她问我:“你和他聊天室为了什么呢?”
                我说:“因为开心啊!”
                她说:“如果现在和他聊天让你不开心了,那就停止,如果你还觉得开心那就继续……还有不要觉得自己太重要,自己只对自己重要……”
                突然间,我内心觉得豁达起来,好友还说“如果他能同时和4、5个人聊天还能都让对方感到开心那也说明他很有魅力……”
                好吧,我承认我接受了这个观点,并且打算给他发一封email讲述我从开始和他聊天的感受,为我的错误道歉……


                IP属地:江苏14楼2020-03-27 22:26
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                  贴上我的apoplogy letter
                  Dear XXX:
                  I'm writing to apologize for my selfishness and arrogance.
                  First of all, I want to thank you for all the happiness you brought to me during our talking. I remembered it was basketball that made us closer and after that we talked very much.
                  I appreciate your insights on different events and I love your way of talking which is mature and gentle instead of being aggressive. Remember one night when we talked about Sun Yang's suspension? We held different opinions. At first I felt sad when you insisted on his cheating but you patiently told me your reasons and cite some examples to explain why high-level atheletes still need to take drugs. I could feel you really cared about my feelings. And finally you succeeded in making me understand this thing in a totally different way.
                  I am really thankful for your sharing with me those wonderful poems, Spanish videos and your guitar playing. They decorate my world and bring me much joy. I enjoy exploring them and those poems do give me power, especially this one—Carpe Diem. I consider this is also the meaning of being friends, that we learn from each other whether it's new knowlege, experiences or viewpoints.
                  However, I made a mistake, which is that I asked for too much. I thought you might also be talking with other girls in the same way and make them pleased too. I'm also afraid that I'm not important in your mind because you never told me about that. So I'm kind of jealous and I want you to talk with less people though you've told me it's not about the number or time.
                  Yesterday I discussed it with my best friend and I realized I was wrong. I talk to you because it makes me happy. It's very simple but I make it complicated. I always pursue that I should be important in your heart but it doesn't really matter whether it is or not. And, what I should think is that I'm only important to myself and love myself from the heart.
                  I'm sorry for being so rude and asking too much from you. I know you won't tell me direcly about if your care about me or not because actions do explain.
                  I understand you now and I really cherish our friendship, could you please forgive me?
                  Yours sincerely
                  XXX
                  2020/3/12


                  IP属地:江苏15楼2020-03-27 22:31
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                    然后就开始每日在休息时正常聊聊天……
                    其实这段时间真的很忙,毕业季的paper,找工作,准备考试……
                    所以那段时间每天他都问我paper进度如何,有没有困难……
                    也不太记得具体说了什么,但是似乎比3/11前少了一些,他觉得我变得colder了……
                    这段时间他的国家的疫情越来越严重,他的家乡也出现了一些死亡病例,而且目前物资缺乏,医务人员的防护用品都很难保证,他更为他的家人担忧,因为一开始民众并没有重视,包括他的家人出门也不戴口罩,也买不到口罩…
                    所以聊到家国大事情绪总是很低沉,目前我们国家已经在慢慢康复,希望别的国家可以挺住!


                    IP属地:江苏16楼2020-03-27 22:58
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                      分享一件超级开心的事:历时二十天,我终于会发西班牙语大舌音啦!让我们一起rrrrrrrrrr哈哈哈!


                      IP属地:江苏来自iPhone客户端17楼2020-05-06 23:24
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                        男女生之间一旦其中一方对另一方有了不一样的情感,两个人就做不成朋友了吗?
                        至少他选择了不,而我们的友谊也终止了。
                        这是我没有意料到的结局,so abrupt and sad.
                        We often chatted with each other during the past two months.
                        We talked about our lives, lessons, students and everything intersting or troubling...
                        I realized that he felt a little different for me at that time and he said once 'I think I liked you in a special way', followed by 'But we never met so I don't think too much'...
                        I really enjoyed talking to him but I don't want to think that complicatedly about whether I liked him or not, or maybe I just liked him as a friend...
                        Today he talked to me again.
                        I could feel that he seemed down these two days. He told me today that he didn't feel so happy.
                        'I'm not building something true, deep and real.'
                        .......
                        I wanted to comfort him but I had training lessons this afternoon so I didn't talk much to him.
                        And at around 4p.m. I finished training and texted him.
                        15 minutes later he replied but I came back home and prepared to study so I didn't reply to him till 3 hours later.
                        Maybe this behavior kind of assured him that I might not like him.
                        And he texted, ' I want to ask you, because I have the feeling that you don't like me, and I'm just annoying you.'
                        Me-No
                        -I enjoy talking to you and you're not annoying.
                        -And I always bothered you
                        He-You know what I'm talking about
                        Me-Like?
                        -I like you as a friend
                        He-Do we have chances of something else?
                        Me-But we can't love online.
                        He-You don't understand me or I don't understand you.
                        -There's just those 2 options
                        -If online is just an excuse to say no, say it directly (I admitted that it was an excuse)
                        ......
                        The last sentence he said was--' I don't want to do it (talking to me) if you realized that we'll be just friends and any chance died long ago.’
                        以这样的方式失去一个珍贵的朋友真的很难过
                        但是换位思考一下我也许也会这么做……
                        选不选择说出来、问对方的感受都需要勇气
                        如果两个人的感觉不一样有一方势必要做出选择
                        只是他真的太理性了,做不成男女朋友就不能再做朋友了…
                        'I guess there's no point on us.'
                        How cruel...
                        I still don't want our friendship to end in this way.
                        I want you back......


                        IP属地:江苏19楼2020-05-21 23:28
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                          后续:
                          在5-21号以后一周我们都没有互相发送消息,一周以后的某一天我给他发信息才发现已经被他删好友了,忍痛又加回来,互相说了一些祝福的话,我说到以前和你聊天真的很开心,被理解的感觉真好,还有被鼓励,被欣赏……然后我问他还可以继续做朋友吗?你觉得我自私吗?…他的回答也真的一针见血:如果你只是享受有人不断地和你说sweet words,那么你真的是自私……
                          既然如此,既然我们的关系是这样只有一方感到快乐,而且双方目的不同的话,也没有必要再继续联系,浪费对方的时间了……
                          于是我删了他。
                          期间有过想加回来,但是想着他可能也发现了我删了他然而并没有加我,所以我还是不打扰了吧……
                          我以为我永远失去了这样一个曾经在我生命中非常special的朋友。
                          直到今晨,失眠的我2点多爬起来看微信,发现了一条好友请求,是他发来的。
                          很震惊,也很巧合,第一次在HK上遇见他也是因为失眠发了一条动态,然后他和我打招呼……
                          通过请求的时候已经是凌晨2:45了,立即收到了他发来的信息,告诉我他新工作的面试没有成功(我删他之前他有说那一周要线上面试),然后说了晚安,只是想告诉我这个消息。
                          我说,好的,晚安。(我以为conversation就这样结束了)
                          他又问我为什么这么晚还没有睡,于是又开始了以前的话痨模式,聊最近的生活以及未来的规划,就不知不觉到了四点。我觉得我已经完全把他当成一个普通朋友了,希望他也是吧。
                          但是似乎也少了些什么……
                          生活继续慢慢走吧,who knows the future~~~~~~


                          IP属地:江苏20楼2020-07-02 18:13
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                            We're still friends.
                            And somehow I've considered him as one of my best friends who can truly understand and support me wherever I am, whatever I do.
                            I still remember one day in February last year, which was several days right after we met online.
                            I said I really hoped to meet you someday and have some great talks together...
                            And it will come true! I plan to visit him this July.
                            Maybe we could roam through the streets, have some nice talks, or cook together and have some fun...
                            And I should practice my English more and more these days!


                            IP属地:江苏21楼2021-07-03 16:30
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                              我们认识快两年啦,依旧在talking,越来越intimate,他真的好好呀!


                              IP属地:江苏来自iPhone客户端24楼2022-02-12 21:42
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