英语吧 关注:1,537,350贴子:11,394,133
最近比较忙碌,少了跟帖和回帖。不过偶尔翻一翻页,发现英语吧好像少了有养分的帖子。除了四六级外,就是对单选题提出疑问,以及那些 ”怎样学英语“,求代写作文,和求大片翻译的帖子,都是坐等被删的。连水帖、骂街贴和撕逼贴都少了。
趁此时机,我静静地来一发
最近吧里有个奇葩,经常走进别人的帖子,宣扬 “语法无用论”,但是只要看过他写得狗屁不通的英语,就知道是个吃饱撑的
当然,反对学习语法的大有人在。有些是老师不会教、或教不好的;有些是自己学不会、或学不好的。有些以为语法就是一条一条的规则,要死记硬背,对语法恨之入骨。
有些 “大神” 更经常说要学习比语法高超的东西,仿佛讲了一些似是而非的道理,就马上变得高大上似的


IP属地:中国香港1楼2015-03-09 15:04回复
    其实语法(怎样排列单词表达所思所想)并不能从语言中剥离的,而是基础知识。是要习得一种语言,基本上要注意两方面的技能:输入(听、读)和输出(说、写)。许多同学说会分析句子结构、也看得懂句子,但是就是写不出像样的句子/文章来,关键就是侧重了输入(读)而忽略了输出(写)。我不知道现在的老师是不是不怎么样教授写作的。。。
    最近我在图书馆找到一本书,针对实用的写作知识。这本书写于七十年代末(是啊,呵呵!),那正是 “功能语法” 学派开始出现的时候,所以这书是以不同的语境/语体/语用做题目的,如:Advice and Opinion,Suggestions,Contrast and Comparison 等等。
    这本书已经绝版,该是买不到的了。但虽然经过几十年的时间,当中有些知识历久弥新。我尝试发一些上来做参考,特别是怎样运用一些语法结构,发挥各种功能。请别叫我翻译,看不懂就查字典吧!
    之前 @李吴明enjoy 问我有没有 “有趣” 的语法。这个帖子的资料不一定 “有趣”,但希望是 “有用” 的。也希望说明语法跟语用是两位一体,不是分开来学习,也不是一个比另外一个高明的


    IP属地:中国香港2楼2015-03-09 15:05
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      怎样给意见?看看能否直接上图。。。


      IP属地:中国香港4楼2015-03-09 15:17
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        IP属地:中国香港5楼2015-03-09 15:35
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          语法就是连词成句、连句成文的套路。
          先了解句式,然后模仿,然后慢慢收为己用,就这样吧!
          先发 4L 和 5L 练习的参考答案(书本提供的):
          Susan Fisher is a student who is about to leave school. Use the following to give her advice about her future.
          a) I would advise you to learn foreign languages.
          b) If you take my advice you will continue to study
          c) I would recommend you to get a job as soon as possible.
          d) If I were you I would go to night-school and learn a profession.
          e) I would advise you to earn enough money to travel around the world.
          f) If I were you I would work in the shop with your father.
          g) If you take my advice you will get married, settle down, and have a family.
          Now you are giving opinions and advice to someone whose neighbours are always holding parties and throwing litter over the fence.
          a) It would seem to me that your best course would be to tell them how you feel.
          b) From my point of view I think you should call the police.
          c) In my opinion you should throw the rubbish back.
          d) It would seem to me that your best course would be to write a letter of complaint.
          e) As far as I'm concerned the best thing you can do is take them to court.
          f) It would appear to me that your best course would be to see a lawyer.
          g) In my opinion you should sue them for damages for nervous disorder due to the continual noise.
          (“答案” 似乎少了些逗号


          IP属地:中国香港12楼2015-03-09 18:52
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            技术贴没有人有兴趣的?!只供参考
            与 Advice and Opinion 有关联的一课是 Suggestions:


            IP属地:中国香港18楼2015-03-10 23:06
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              怎么变了话题贴


              IP属地:中国香港26楼2015-03-10 23:56
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                你们的作文要写投诉信吗?下面的投诉信和回复,针锋相对,十分精彩,希望你看得懂


                IP属地:中国香港93楼2015-03-11 22:54
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                  COMPLAINING
                  Look at the following ways of complaining:
                  [quite strong] - I have had enough of the way + SENTENCE / I have had enough of X DOING ...
                  [very strong] - I cannot stand/bear “+ the way + SENTENCE / + X any longer / + X DOING ...”
                  你能够串连下面的单词成为句子吗?
                  a) I / enough / the way he / always taking my cigarettes
                  b) I / stand / John plays / guitar
                  c) I / not bear films about cowboys any longer
                  d) I / enough / people complaining
                  e) I / not stand / way people always complain all the time


                  IP属地:中国香港94楼2015-03-11 23:00
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                    PROTEST AND WARNING
                    Look at the following ways of expressing protest and warning:
                    [rather formal] - I am not prepared to DO ... any longer
                    I will not DO ... any longer
                    Unless X DOES ..., Y will DO ...
                    [rather informal] It is high/about time X DID ...
                    不发练习题了,直接把参考答案当作例句:
                    a) I am not prepared to put up with his laziness any longer.
                    b) It's about/high time he stopped being lazy.
                    c) I will not listen to his excuses any longer.
                    d) Unless he mends he ways I will sack him.
                    e) I am not prepared to put up with his rudeness any longer.


                    IP属地:中国香港96楼2015-03-11 23:12
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                      APOLOGISING
                      Look at the following ways of apologising and making excuses:
                      APOLOGIES
                      I do apologise for DOING ...
                      I am extremely/very/terribly sorry + SENTENCE
                      [formal] - Please accept my apologies for DOING ...
                      EXCUSES
                      I had no idea + SENTENCE
                      I had no intention of DOING ...
                      It was an accident/unavoidable
                      [informal] - I did not mean to DO ...
                      这是没有练习题或者例句的


                      IP属地:中国香港97楼2015-03-11 23:15
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                        更新一下吧!我试过发下面的文章给 “语法无用论” 的支持者 @weak123ccav1 ,问他怎么看,但是他没有回复。
                        我绝对赞成学习英语不是要死记硬背语法“规条”,而是要多阅读,学习模仿别人怎样写句子、写文章。但是如果能够认识文章中用到的句式,然后在此基础上学习模仿,将会事半功倍。语法就是可以这样习得的。
                        先上图吧!


                        IP属地:中国香港170楼2015-03-13 10:19
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                          这一课是教怎样谈论一些计划的,以及当计划有变的时候,可以怎样说。



                          IP属地:中国香港171楼2015-03-13 10:29
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                            上面的文章可能看不清楚,试试再发一遍:




                            IP属地:中国香港172楼2015-03-13 10:32
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                              因为忙碌,好久没有更新。看到有人问城市和乡村生活的异同,碰巧有一课触及这条题目,便发上来分享。



                              IP属地:中国香港293楼2015-04-23 20:39
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